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Help id transmission (hopefully)
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August 20, 2018 at 8:49 am Trying to get better pictures but for now this is what I have.
5 RepliesSeptember 4, 2018 at 6:15 pm I have it and am able to run it now, but prop seems too big maybe. I had a 2:1 before, was kind of hoping it was a 1.75:1 and I’d be ok.
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ZF280A- topping up Transmission Oil.
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September 2, 2018 at 9:33 pm Change to a New ZF-280A since 6 years ago. Only recently 2 years ago start topping up Transmission gear oil and frequency seem to get shorter with every Fuel top up. Need to top up Transmission oil too. What does it tell us ? lawrento
1 ReplySeptember 3, 2018 at 12:15 pm ENGINE HOURS vs. adding 8 -16 ounces of oil?? Please, Real numbers–One vs the other. Post a good picture of the bilge area under the engine & gear Tony Seaboard Founder Go here for the latest stuff we put together and share for all to see:
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Low pressure in ZF 63A
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August 18, 2018 at 5:02 pm Hi all, I would really appreciate some advice on a new problem. I have a Caribbean (Bertram) 32 with twin 6BT and ZF 63A transmissions. Several months ago I had a shaft seal replaced on the port gearbox, replacing the fluid with Shell Spirax ATF. The boat hasnāt been used since then until yesterday. The transmission pressure was low and flickering but it would go in to both forward and reverse ok though I suspect at times I had some slippage.. T…
6 RepliesAugust 26, 2018 at 4:44 am I see you have a VDO transmission sender listed as 28 bar/400psi. Would this be a suitable replacement for a 25 bar 360 psi VDO sender in the ZF 63a of mine? Thanks Nck
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Dexron IIIH
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August 5, 2018 at 8:25 am Is Dexron IIIH functionally equivalent with Dexron III? Is it OK in a ZF 63A gear box? 411 Walnut St #7130
2 RepliesAugust 6, 2018 at 5:36 am Thank you for your prompt reply. 411 Walnut St #7130
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ZF Hurth Model HSW 800 A2 – 2.0 Help me learn.
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July 26, 2018 at 3:12 pm Finally found the tag on one of my transmissions (gear boxes). A Google search didn’t turn up more than a simple chart showing gear ratio, power and torque specs. I’d like to get a better feel for the maintenance routine for them. A operator/maintenance/repair manual would be nice. Looks like this is an older model that has been replaced by the ZF 80A Thanks in advance. Paul Changes in L'Attitudes 1999 Maxum 4100 SCA Twin Cummins …
4 RepliesAugust 5, 2018 at 5:16 pm Fluid=Dextron spec ATF AMOUNT= Middle of High Low Marks on dip stick– maybe 5 quarts on a oil change.. DO NOT OVER FILL. Tony Seaboard Founder Go here for the latest stuff we put together and share for all to see:
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zf 80 lv temp specs
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May 30, 2018 at 8:12 pm I have been chasing down a possible transmission temp problem. does anyone know what the temp specs are??? After running 1/2 hour port side runs 130 degrees f the starboard runs 165 degrees f. some thoughts are sice one side is counter rotation it will run hotter??? I have owned the boat since new 2005, Searay 390 dancer with cummins 370 qsb diesels. I have never noticed this. Presures at 2400 rpm are the same side to side 365 psi. When at 850 …
11 RepliesAugust 4, 2018 at 10:59 am I removed the exhaust elbow from the turbo, the outlet(shower head design) was partly clogged with rust scale. I had a new end for the elbow with larger holes made, now after 1 hr of run time at 2400 RPM it still climbs to 195 & rising. Afraid to let it run hotter. The engine temp has dropped from 185 to 175. So all the hoses, diesel fuel cooler, after cooler, trans cooler, engine heat exchanger & water outlet from the exhaust elbow have…
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Twin Disc MG507 No reverse?
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June 18, 2018 at 1:37 pm I have noticed lately that my starboard clutch is slow to engage reverse and feels as though itĀ“s slipping or not engaging completely. IĀ“ve tried disconnecting the cables and shifting the selector manually at the clutch and get the same result. IĀ“ve also checked and the filter screen which was clean and changed the oil (40wt) and that did not make any difference either. Pulled the selector and replace the o-ring, reinstalled and double checked t…
2 RepliesJuly 10, 2018 at 9:14 am Tony, I’m having trouble locating a replacement filter screen for the MG507. When servicing I accidentally stepped on it and it crushed. I straightened it out as best i can but I would like to replace it with a new one. I would also like to replace the cover with the o-ring as the previous owner stripped out the threads used to insert the bolt to remove it. Will the screen for the MG5075 work for the MG507? That’s the only one I…
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Hurth Shift valve testing
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July 8, 2018 at 3:21 pm A few days ago, I was coming into the marina’s channel to get to my slip. All was fine till I wanted to turn to starboard. I put the port transmission into reverse from forward and nothing happened. Neutral. I put it back into forward and it stayed in neutral. After some piling bumping and help from the dock crew, I got into the slip. Removed shift cable from transmission and shifted manually; stayed in neutral. Transmission fluid is clean…
2 RepliesJuly 9, 2018 at 8:07 am Thanks, Steve. I’ll relay the info to the mechanic and do some testing myself, following your directions. Hy professor1255
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ZF 325 Low Pressure – Slow response
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June 12, 2018 at 4:24 am ZF 325-1 gears. 2006 boat, new to me. Electronic controls and trolling valves. Problem on the starboard gear. Transmission pressure normal at start up, 343 PSI each gear. Putting the starboard in gear response is slow. 2-3 seconds or so from putting in gear to gear activating. Pressure drops to below 20 PSI and wont come all the way back up. No oil in bilge. No oil going out the pipe. Recently had an issue on same gear cooler leaking at fitt…
2 RepliesJune 13, 2018 at 2:28 pm I think there are two springs in there… see attached pictures. I think one is a relief spring and the other a modulation spring for the trolling valve?
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ID Label – ZF Marine gear box
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May 28, 2018 at 9:35 am Continuing to learn the boat … PO paperwork stack has a ZF Marine HSW/HSWE manual (models ranging from 250A through 800 V2). Quick look at the box didn’t show any markings, but I didn’t really bend all over the place. Any thought on where an ID label might be? Thanks in advance. Paul Changes in L'Attitudes 1999 Maxum 4100 SCA Twin Cummins 330HP 6BTA 5.9-M-3
3 RepliesMay 29, 2018 at 6:59 am Every ’99 SCA and SCB that I know of have Model HSW 800-A2. I believe it is a 1.96:1 ratio. Rob’s pic shows the location of the tag. Good luck.
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ZF Model 80lv low pressure
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May 25, 2018 at 6:34 am I have a 2005 Searay 39 sundancer with ZF 80LV transmissions with cummins 370 qsb engines. On cold start up both temps 60 degrees, pressures both 350 – 375, I have a 15 minute ride out of channel pressure same temp 90 degrees. on first sea trial noticed starboard transmission temp raising to 160 degrees after crusing for 20 minutes & port side 110 degrees. Engine temp on both engines 177 degrees. When at clutch speed pressure drops t…
4 RepliesMay 27, 2018 at 5:17 pm PS no dragging on the sahft
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ZF 325 1A Valve Block Leak
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May 23, 2018 at 6:11 pm Hello all. I just joined this forum but have been familiar with Seaboard with ordering parts for my QSM 11’s for a while. I have a small leak which appears to be at the front plate of the Valve Block. Thanks in advance for any advise or tips on getting this fixed. Is there an “O” ring kit?
2 RepliesMay 23, 2018 at 7:33 pm Hi Tony, Thanks for the quick response. Unfortunately, I’m now in NY and the boat is in Florida and I wont get back to her until June or July. Attached is a similiar photo from another post where I pointed to where I believe the leak is coming from. I put a piece of an oil pad and slipped it under the end cap and it became oily after running. I guess it’s possible the leak is from under the valve block?
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ZF Marine IRM280PL gear rattle / chatter
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April 17, 2018 at 12:34 pm I have a ZE Marine model IRM280PL transmission coupled to a Cummins 6BTA5.9M3 330 hp engine in my 1999 Nordic Tug 37 with currently just over 3000 hours on them. Ever since I purchased the boat at 2010 hours, I heard the gear rattle/chatter when at idle speed and the transmission in gear (only at that time). A slight increase in engine speed would eliminate the rattle/chatter (similar result to what was posted on your website). Last year I ch…
1 ReplyApril 20, 2018 at 6:15 am If you are getting gear rattle or clatter above an idle, and especially above 1000 RPM, your torsional coupling is most likely ready to fail, or has completely lost its “damping qualities”, or both.. Yes, I would be concerned.. Only solution, slide back the gear or lift it out and replace it.. There are not less that 3- styles for this engine / gear arrangement, and long term fied experience has shown some are better than others.. I…
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Closest current model match to ZF Marine model IRM280PL
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April 17, 2018 at 12:48 pm What is the closest ZF Transmission model to a 1999 ZF Marine model IRM280PL transmission? I am interested in what posted tips and suggestions would be applicable. In particular, the comments about measuring the transmission oil level. My transmission OM states to measure the transmission oil level when the engine is running and in neutral and idle speed. Once the dipstick is removed, oil spurts out aggressively from the opening. I think th…
3 RepliesApril 18, 2018 at 5:46 am Luke, ZF changed their Gear ID nomenclature about 10 years ago.. Your Model numbed is now called a ZF 280-1. There are also some physical internal & external changes, but if something did happened to yours, the change out is easy.. As to oil–A quality SAE HD 30 W meets the spec. Some 15W-40 also meet the spec. Oil level & checking–The manual is quite confusing on and if you ask an employee at ZF, you will not get a solid an…
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ZF 220A transmission pressure
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April 5, 2018 at 3:51 pm Hello all, My transmission gage on my ZF 220A only reads when the trans is shifted into reverse. The starboard trans works in forward perfect. I don’t see another port to install the sender into. I replaced the sender thinking it may be the issue the the same problem is still occuring. Thanks Joe
2 RepliesApril 5, 2018 at 8:57 pm Have you seen the following article? ZF 220A or 220V Pressure and Temperature Sender or Switch Locations Corey Schmidt | VP, Operations | Seaboard Marine, Inc.
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Opinions on gear/engine match
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November 5, 2017 at 5:14 pm Just bought a workboat with an older JWAC 6BTA, 250. It has a velvet drive 72C gear, can I expect issues down the road and what would a Heavy Duty replacement gear option be. Presently have a drive saver in line, so there is an 1.5″ or so extra length available if needed. David
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ZF 325 -1A low gear oil pressure
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January 19, 2018 at 2:28 pm Hello and thank you for any help with my problem. First post on the forum. I have a new to me 46 foot Bertram sport fish that was completely redone in 2011/12. Re-powered with QSM11 remanās with ZF 325ā1 A transmissions. These are electric shift throttles and trans run by a Gleninning system with trolling valves. Gear pressure is low on starboard trans running about 100 psi, consistent in neutral or in gear. Have not noticed a performance …
2 RepliesJanuary 26, 2018 at 3:39 am Well Iām a little embarrassed, at least I donāt have a gear problem. I discovered that this boat has two different transmission controllers. The starboard gear has a EB 30 controller, port has the EB 31 controller. The low pressure on the starboard gear led me to believe that I had a transmission problem. The EB 30 controller does not show full operating pressure until put in gear and given some rpm. The EB 31 controller shows full operatin…
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Shift delay
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December 21, 2017 at 6:42 pm My ZF285A transmission has a shift delay programmable through the Glendinning EEC3 control with a range of 0-2.5 seconds with a default of 1.0seconds. Nothing wrong with the transmissions. Things that make me go hmmm… What is the purpose of this delay? Why would one be inclined to change from the default of 1.0seconds and whatās the reason 1.0 seconds is the default. Phil
4 RepliesJanuary 4, 2018 at 8:57 pm Just to close the thread, I spoke with Rick at Glendinning. For those that have Glendinning controls, Rick is a wealth of knowledge and a true gentleman who solved this mystery. There are two delays, both designed as preventative measures. For those that have never driven electronic shift/throttles they are silky smooth and itās easy to bump them in a moving boat. And yes there are friction adjustments for both detention and movement, but even s…
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ZF 220a Drain Plug Thread Size
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November 22, 2017 at 4:31 pm Hello, Does anyone know what the thread size is for the oil drain plug on a ZF 220a gear box? Thanks, Pat
3 RepliesNovember 27, 2017 at 6:32 am Pat, Regarding the 220A, check out this topic .. Removing the Magnet / Screen Hex Rob "Luck is the residue of good design."
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Rebuild or Conversion
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April 16, 2017 at 5:44 pm I have a failed MG-5075SC behind a 6BTA. Ā Considering a rebuild of the existing unit, however am also considering a conversion to a comparable ZF. Ā Any insights or recommendations? Ā Unit drives a Doen 105 jet and is 1:1 ratio. Ā One item that is driving the conversion question is the apparent damage to the Twin Disc – lots of metal in the oil and strainer following a low oil condition due to seal failure – may or may not be rebuilda…
7 RepliesOctober 21, 2017 at 4:40 pm You don’t screw around.. You needed to get it done and you did.. Good for you.. Not that it matters now, but for the 5075 to fail at such early hours and then looking at the pics says volumes–The gear was installed with some type of interference on the input applying thrust pressure on the gears input shaft–Not a fault of the gear–A Lousy mechanic put it together.. Anyway, seems all is good now.. Tony Seaboard Founder …
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Help id transmission (hopefully)
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